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		<title>Roger Patterson’s Plagiarism</title>
		<link>http://orgoneresearch.com/2012/01/11/roger-patterson%e2%80%99s-plagiarism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>With the publication of Greg Long’s book The Making of Bigfoot in 2004, a great deal of damning information came out about Roger Patterson. A clear picture emerges of a swindler and a con man, one who wrote bad checks and was even arrested for failing to pay the rental charges on the movie camera [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the publication of Greg Long’s book <a href="http://northwestmysteries.com/makingofbigfoot/default.htm">The Making of Bigfoot</a> in 2004, a great deal of damning information came out about Roger Patterson. A clear picture emerges of a swindler and a con man, one who wrote bad checks and was even arrested for failing to pay the rental charges on the movie camera he used at Bluff Creek. </p>
<p>Not surprisingly Bigfoot advocates shot back, claiming that these accusations were about a dead man who could not defend himself, that they were personal attacks that has no bearing on what was seen in his film, and even that he was broke because of medical bills and more or less <em>had</em> to write bad checks!</p>
<p>The following images are intended to demonstrate that Patterson was unequivocally engaged in Bigfoot related fraud before he made his famous film. These images obviously have nothing to do with writing bad checks. </p>
<p>The individual credited with discovering these images posts on various internet forums as “Kitakaze.” I find it rather surprising that it wasn’t until well into the 21st Century that this was discovered, though the magazines and books have been around since the mid 1960’s. </p>
<p>The first montage includes an illustration by Mort Künstler, and appeared in the December 1959 issue of True Magazine. The illustration accompanied the essay entitled <a href="http://www.bigfoot-lives.com/html/the_strange_story_of_america_s.html">&#8220;The Strange Story of America&#8217;s Abominable Snowman&#8221;</a>&#8230; by Ivan Sanderson. Beneath is the drawing Patterson plagiarized which appeared in his 1966 book Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist?</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2012/01/11/roger-patterson%e2%80%99s-plagiarism/mort-kunstler-patterson/" rel="attachment wp-att-1204"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Mort-Künstler-Patterson.jpg" alt="" title="Mort Künstler Patterson" width="471" height="626" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1204" /></a></p>
<p>The second montage includes an image by artist Louis S. Glanzman, and appeared in another True Magazine article written by Ivan Sanderson, this one from March 1960 issue entitled <a href="http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/truemag.htm">A New Look At America&#8217;s Mystery Giant</a>. The lower drawing is again from Patterson’s book.</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2012/01/11/roger-patterson%e2%80%99s-plagiarism/louis-s-glanzman-patterson/" rel="attachment wp-att-1205"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Louis-S.-Glanzman-Patterson.jpg" alt="" title="Louis S. Glanzman Patterson" width="417" height="585" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1205" /></a></p>
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		<title>The Case of the Skookum Elk Cast</title>
		<link>http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In 2006 Dr. Jeff Meldrum authored a book entitled Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science (ISBN 0-765-31216-7) which puts forth a variety of arguments for the existence of Bigfoot. An entire chapter is devoted to the analysis of a large cast that was quickly dubbed the “Skookum Body Cast.” Meldrum addresses claims that the most likely candidate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2006 Dr. Jeff Meldrum authored a book entitled <em>Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science</em> (ISBN 0-765-31216-7) which puts forth a variety of arguments for the existence of Bigfoot. An entire chapter is devoted to the analysis of a large cast that was quickly dubbed the “Skookum Body Cast.” Meldrum addresses claims that the most likely candidate other than Bigfoot for the creation of this large impression was an elk. Meldrum first offers this line drawing on page 119 which is captioned “Typical posture of a bedding bull elk, with the resulting pattern of impressions. The darkest regions indicate the position of the hooves.”</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/meldrum-diagram/" rel="attachment wp-att-1056"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Meldrum-Diagram-350x244.jpg" alt="" title="Meldrum Diagram" width="350" height="244" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1056" /></a></p>
<p>Contemporaneous with the publication of Meldrum’s book was an analysis by Dr. Anton Wroblewski, a professional geologist with a background in paleontology and ichnology. Wroblewski created a photomontage that cleanly matched the features found in a wallowing elk to those found in the Skookum Body Cast.</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/wroblewski-comparison/" rel="attachment wp-att-1059"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wroblewski-Comparison.jpg" alt="" title="Wroblewski Comparison" width="266" height="400" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1059" /></a></p>
<p>As we can see in Wroblewski’s photomontage, the elk’s hooves are beside the elk, not under it as in Meldrum’s drawing. In addition, an informal written analysis was posted to a popular Bigfoot Internet forum, and later<a href="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=59728"> reposted to the James Randi Educational Foundation forum</a>. Needless to say, this caused a firestorm in the Bigfoot community, as the credibility of multiple Bigfoot advocates was called into question. A variety of arguments were advanced by Bigfoot advocates that the cast did not represent an elk. One persistent claim has been about how elk leave hoof prints when rising from a wallow. On page 119 Meldrum writes:</p>
<p>“And finally, and perhaps most telling, when an elk rises from a repose it must place its hooves directly under its weight in order to stand, leaving tracks in the <em>centerline</em> of its imprint, Yet there are no elk tracks located in the center of the Skookum imprint, only deep and clear elk imprints <em>skirting</em> the imprint.” </p>
<p> This claim is in direct opposition to <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1758470&#038;postcount=1">Wroblewski’s analysis:</a></p>
<p>“Significantly, the lack of hoof prints directly within the outline of the main body print is exactly what is seen in deer, elk, and other ungulate lays (see Elbroch, 2003). Hoof prints found outside the main body outline, but related to the forelegs reveal how the animal stood up.”</p>
<p>Here is a set of screen captures taken from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzJ8BCtO6hw&#038;feature=youtube_gdata_player">an elk hunter’s video</a>. As we can see from the digital time display, the elk bounds out of the wallow very quickly, within a second. First off, we see from the video that “wallowing” is a dynamic activity, and the elk is in different positions at different times. Here is a screen shot that shows the elk on its side, not on its belly, as in Meldrum’s drawing. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/wallowing/" rel="attachment wp-att-1057"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Wallowing-350x286.jpg" alt="" title="Wallowing" width="350" height="286" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1057" /></a></p>
<p>The next still image is just after the elk has been hit with an arrow. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/one/" rel="attachment wp-att-1058"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/One-350x280.jpg" alt="" title="One" width="350" height="280" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1058" /></a></p>
<p>From there we see a quick series of positions, none of which show the elk’s hooves positioned in the main body impression. The elk has explosively heaved itself to the side, not placidly stood up in its own body impression. Remember, Meldrum claimed that an elk <em>must</em> place its hooves directly under its weight in order to stand which is an absolute statement. As such, Meldrum’s absolute claim is factually inaccurate. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/two/" rel="attachment wp-att-1060"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Two-350x257.jpg" alt="" title="Two" width="350" height="257" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1060" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/three/" rel="attachment wp-att-1061"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Three-350x276.jpg" alt="" title="Three" width="350" height="276" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1061" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/four/" rel="attachment wp-att-1062"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Four-350x290.jpg" alt="" title="Four" width="350" height="290" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1062" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/21/the-case-of-the-skookum-elk-cast/five-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-1064"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Five1-350x253.jpg" alt="" title="Five" width="350" height="253" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1064" /></a></p>
<p>It’s possible that Meldrum could have avoided making fundamentally flawed arguments like this if he had first consulted professional ichnologists. As <a href="http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1762446&#038;postcount=13">Dr. Wroblewski put it:</a></p>
<p>“Mark Elbroch, whose book I used as a conveneient, (sic) authoritative, and recent reference in the hopes that BFers would actually take the time to investigate how &#8220;real&#8221; trackers work, has weighed in and agrees with my interpetation (sic) as well. There is no controversy as to the identity of this particular cast. Anyone with one working eye and an ounce of common sense can see that it&#8217;s an elk or large deer trace.”</p>
<p>For further reading, <a href="http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/skookum_hokum.htm">here is another account</a> of Wroblewski&#8217;s analysis by Daniel Perez.</p>
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		<title>Is This Bigfoot Track Real?</title>
		<link>http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/16/is-this-bigfoot-track-real/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this track is real! It’s a depression in the ground, and as such is a physical fact. But was it made by Sasquatch? That’s the sixty-four dollar question. With virtually all tracks attributed to Sasquatch, we don’t have a film or video record of what actually made the track at the time the track [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this track is real! It’s a depression in the ground, and as such is a physical fact. But was it made by Sasquatch? That’s the sixty-four dollar question. With virtually all tracks attributed to Sasquatch, we don’t have a film or video record of what actually made the track at the time the track was made. We have to infer what might have made the track after the event. </p>
<p>First off, the track in question was part of a series videotaped by Paul Freeman. An edited portion of this video surfaced some years ago in a TV and DVD documentary entitled Legend Meets Science, produced by <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1967585/">Doug Hajicek</a>. The video that this screen grab was taken from was recently uploaded to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtbEu3xNRY0">YouTube</a>, and contains shots of a trackway that appears very ‘Squatchy. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/16/is-this-bigfoot-track-real/freeman-track-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-962"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Freeman-Track-350x246.jpg" alt="" title="Freeman Track" width="350" height="246" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-962" /></a></p>
<p>One track in particular caught my eye, and it appears at about 43 seconds into the video. The track contrasts strongly with the surrounding forest litter, as there is very little debris in the track itself. To me it appears to have been excavated rather than created by compression. I came to this conclusion because some years earlier I had made various tests using large prosthetic feet. One test I performed in my front yard. As you can see in my photo, there is plenty of green moss and fine vegetation in both the bottom of the track and the soil surrounding it. I made this track by repeatedly stomping on a Ray Wallace style wooden prosthetic. If you look closely you can see an impression of my own size 12 shoe to the right of the track. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/16/is-this-bigfoot-track-real/test-track/" rel="attachment wp-att-963"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Test-Track-350x233.jpg" alt="" title="Test Track" width="350" height="233" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-963" /></a></p>
<p>Various details can be gleaned from this simple test, but the obvious one here is that a compressive event, such as a heavy mass pressing into the earth should mash the vegetation in with it, and the vegetation should remain. From this I would conclude that the track seen in the Freeman video was not made by a singular or even multiple compressive event, and as such cannot be attributed to an animal. </p>
<p>I’m not the only person who concluded that Paul Freeman’s tracks were fake. In 2005 a fascinating book entitled Tracker was published by Joel Hardin (ISBN 0-9753460-0-8) which included a chapter entitled Tracks of Bigfoot. Hardin details personally investigating a trackway associated with Paul Freeman in the Mill Creek watershed near Walla Walla, Washington in 1982. Hardin devoted 20 pages to detailing an extensive onsite investigation into this trackway. Unlike me, Hardin is a <a href="http://www.jhardin-inc.com/web/">professional tracker</a>, and perhaps not surprisingly concluded that the trackway was fake. It’s an excellent book, and deserves wider recognition within both the Bigfoot and skeptic communities. After reading Hardin’s book, the notion that an 8 foot tall monster could wander the North American continent and remain impossible to track becomes rather ludicrous. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/16/is-this-bigfoot-track-real/tracker-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-965"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Tracker1-350x522.jpg" alt="" title="Tracker" width="350" height="522" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-965" /></a></p>
<p>Despite Hardin’s professional appraisal, the evidence put forth by Freeman has been taken quite seriously by Bigfoot advocate Jeff Meldrum, who devoted a considerable portion of his 2006 book Sasquatch Legend Meets Science (ISBN 0-765-31216-6) to arguing that Freeman’s evidence was real. </p>
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		<title>The Gore</title>
		<link>http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/01/22/the-gore/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Several weeks back, librarian and MetaFilter moderator Jessamyn West contacted me and asked for my mailing address. She wanted to send me a surprise gift. I soon received a copy of a novel by Joseph A. Citro entitled The Gore. Jessamyn was curious as to what I thought of the book, so by way of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several weeks back, librarian and MetaFilter moderator <a href="http://www.jessamyn.com/journal/">Jessamyn West</a> contacted me and asked for my mailing address. She wanted to send me a surprise gift. I soon received a copy of a novel by Joseph A. Citro entitled <em>The Gore</em>. Jessamyn was curious as to what I thought of the book, so by way of thanks I thought I’d jot down this review. </p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/01/22/the-gore/the-gore/" rel="attachment wp-att-829"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/The-Gore-191x300.jpg" alt="" title="The Gore" width="191" height="300" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-829" /></a></p>
<p>First off, I think Jessamyn was aware of my interest in Bigfootery, as the book incorporates Bigfoot into the story, albeit in a somewhat tangential way. Citro is a <a href="http://josephacitro.blogspot.com/">New England author of both fiction and non-fiction,</a> whose subject matter is largely Fortean or supernatural. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I may not be the best person to give an incisive analysis of a work of fiction, as I’ve read very little of it during my lifetime! My favorite author of fiction is Joseph Wambaugh, who writes about police work in Southern California. In the late 1990’s I went absolutely ga-ga over his masterpiece of burlesque and tragedy, <em>The Choirboys</em>.</p>
<p>Here I’ll put in the obligatory disclaimer that the following review contains spoilers. I think today’s de facto alert is supposed to look like this:</p>
<p>**************************SPOILER ALERT************************</p>
<p>The book’s title itself is a great teaser, as one naturally thinks of horror fiction as incorporating “gore” in the sense of blood and dismemberment. But Citro works in a clever double entendre, as “gore” can also mean a triangular plot of land that is a sort of irregular leftover from roughly orthogonal land division. Indeed, our story takes place in a forested Vermont gore. The novel was first entitled <em>The Unseen</em>, so the title change worked well.</p>
<p>The story starts tragically, as “Lunker” Lavigne sees something in the gore that so disturbs him he commits suicide. We don’t get to learn the identity of what he saw until the end of the book. A variety of characters intersect socially and geographically to investigate the gore’s goings-on. </p>
<p>Citro incorporates two Fortean elements into the novel to create his boogeyman. Native American legends about the “Wild Man of the Woods” are as varied as there are tribes, but one of the more well known is the “Windigo.” This monster is malevolent to be sure, and fits in well in a horror novel. But some of the human characters in the novel can’t be sure of what they saw, and suggest it’s our old friend Bigfoot. </p>
<p>Citro has managed to glean enough from the subculture of Bigfootery to know that some Bigooters, particularly <a href="http://www.hancockhouse.com/products/giacan.htm">Kathy Strain,</a> have seriously proposed that Native American Wildman legends such as the Windigo are actually derived from a biologically real Bigfoot. It’s amusing to me as a resident of the Pacific Northwest to have witnessed the steady growth of the putative habitat of the Sasquatch from the late 1960’s until the present. Back in the late 1960’s, the dominant Bigfoot advocate argument was that the forests of the Pacific Northwest offered a habitat sufficiently vast and rugged to allow a cryptid megafauna like Sasquatch to evade human detection. But as time went on, reports from areas outside the Pacific Northwest began to come in. This presented a conundrum for the advocates, as the argument from habitat had to be quietly set aside. As one Sasquatch skeptic who posts as “LTC8K6” on the James Randi Educational Forums succinctly put it: “Bigfoot is everywhere, yet nowhere.” Indeed, anecdotal sightings of Sasquatch are now recorded for the entire North American continent. If Bigfooters dismiss sightings from states like Missouri or Kansas out of hand, then the same logic could be applied to sightings in the Pacific Northwest…</p>
<p>As far as the novel goes, Citro is accurately depicting the current state of affairs; people in places like Vermont or New York occasionally report seeing Bigfoot, despite the ludicrous lack of biological evidence for such an animal. </p>
<p>Citro works in the theme of the Underground Railroad, which is of course an historical reality. But that too is the <a href="http://historiccamdencounty.com/ccnews11.shtml">subject of exaggeration and mythology</a> as well. Like all works of fiction, you start with something real, then augment and fine tune it. </p>
<p>Certain story elements didn’t quite work for me, as numerous human characters survive horrific and violent encounters only to recover and go back for more. For me, this had a bit of a Wylie Coyote feel to it, lacking only the Acme anvil. In real life, even a sprained ankle can be deadly out in the woods, yet Citro’s characters survive much worse injuries. </p>
<p>I’m sorry to report that Citro made a glaring technical error on pages 209 and 211 by including a safety on a snub nosed .38.</p>
<p>The <em>dues ex machina</em> of the novel is that the Wendigos are really humans after all, reduced to living in a feral state. Interesting but implausible; I think I would have enjoyed the monsters remaining Windigos.  </p>
<p>An even stranger literary genre than Fortean horror fiction are books about Bigfoot “habituation” in which individuals periodically encounter and interact with Sasquatch. Despite the best efforts of individuals like Jeff Meldrum or the producers of TV’s Monserquest to legitimize the oft-mocked topic of Bigfoot, these books push the envelope of credulity to the outer limits. These accounts often become ripe objects of scorn, even within the subculture of Bigfootery itself.</p>
<p>In the end, I’m probably not the best candidate to review a book like <em>The Gore</em>, as I’ve read so much literature on the subject of Bigfoot that Citro’s novel just doesn’t seem that striking to me. The “fringe” of Bigfootery is so vastly weirder and wilder than Citro’s novel that what’s claimed as fact by some outshines even Citro’s fiction. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the book, Jessamyn, the world needs more spontaneous gift giving! </p>
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		<title>The Dust Never Settles</title>
		<link>http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/05/24/the-dust-never-settles/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 02:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I guess I don&#8217;t pay attention to the blogosphere like I should! I just found this page, which was written over a year ago, today! My interest in Bigfootery has diminished since 2005, and I don&#8217;t scan the Bigfoot blogosphere very carefully.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m impressed that the author of the entry got the story quite [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I guess I don&#8217;t pay attention to the blogosphere like I should! I just found <a href="http://thebigfooteryenquirer.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/dust-up-of-the-month-february-2009/">this page</a>, which was written over a year ago, today! My interest in Bigfootery has diminished since 2005, and I don&#8217;t scan the Bigfoot blogosphere very carefully.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m impressed that the author of the entry got the story quite correct. Bigfootery often becomes deluged with irrelevant material, and it can often be trying to wade through it all to get to the truth.</p>
<p>I see Ms. Hovey posted a comment immediately after the blog post in which she misspells the word &#8220;you&#8217;re&#8221; just as she did when she falsely accused me of being a liar on the JREF board! Some bad habits die hard!</p>
<p>The links with the blog entry are to the previous incarnation of my website, and need to be updated. The correct index page about the desiccation ridge business is found <a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/21/bigfoot-compendium/">here.</a> </p>
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		<title>The Men Who Killed Bigfoot</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>This evening I had the distinct honor of finally meeting Dr. Anton Wroblewski and his wonderful wife Bonnie. Here he is seen examining with a loupe a test cast I made some time ago. I think he found a &#8220;sweat pore&#8221;:</p>
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<p>The obligatory dour pose:</p>
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<p>Bigfootery is incomplete without vitriolic finger pointing:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This evening I had the distinct honor of finally meeting Dr. Anton Wroblewski and his wonderful wife Bonnie. Here he is seen examining with a loupe a test cast I made some time ago. I think he found a &#8220;sweat pore&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/03/09/the-men-who-killed-bigfoot/img_0445/" rel="attachment wp-att-587"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IMG_0445-349x286.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_0445" width="349" height="286" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-587" /></a></p>
<p>The obligatory dour pose:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/03/09/the-men-who-killed-bigfoot/img_0454/" rel="attachment wp-att-588"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IMG_0454-350x315.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_0454" width="350" height="315" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-588" /></a></p>
<p>Bigfootery is incomplete without vitriolic finger pointing:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/03/09/the-men-who-killed-bigfoot/img_0457/" rel="attachment wp-att-589"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IMG_0457-350x322.jpg" alt="" title="IMG_0457" width="350" height="322" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-589" /></a></p>
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		<title>A Response to Chilcutt’s MonsterTalk Interview</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The MonsterTalk interview with Jimmy Chilcutt which was posted to the Internet on February 3, 2010 didn’t contain much of anything I wasn’t already familiar with. Unfortunately, I didn’t have an easy way of “rewinding” or even time stamping his verbal statements, so any transcriptions are rough quotes from notes I took.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MonsterTalk interview with Jimmy Chilcutt which was posted to the Internet on February 3, 2010 didn’t contain much of anything I wasn’t already familiar with. Unfortunately, I didn’t have an easy way of “rewinding” or even time stamping his verbal statements, so any transcriptions are rough quotes from notes I took.</p>
<p>For those unfamiliar with MonsterTalk or Jimmy Chilcutt, the interview appears <a href="http://www.skeptic.com/podcasts/monstertalk/10-02-03/">here</a>.</p>
<p>To cut to the chase, Chilcutt has had about 5 years now to formulate a rebuttal to the claim that the textures seen on CA-19 are desiccation ridges, not dermal ridges. In this interview he appears to have done this in two ways. The first is to simply ignore the argument entirely, as he seems to be completely unaware of the contents of my website, posts on JREF, and research on other blogs and forums. The second is a last ditch appeal to deltas.</p>
<p>First off, he mentions that I sent him test casts, which indeed I did. At the time, I believed the desiccation ridge phenomenon was a purely surface effect, and that the mass of plaster slurry was not a factor. At the time, my working metaphor was that of wallpaper; if you are studying wallpaper, it really doesn’t matter how thick the wall behind the wallpaper is. But real science is all about testing assumptions, and determining what variables do and do not affect the result. </p>
<p>Over time, I came to realize that total slurry mass IS a factor in the size and distribution of desiccation ridges. A better metaphor is a potato chip vs. a French fry. Both are sections of potato cooked in hot oil, but their bulk characteristics are different because of their differing masses. The small test casts I sent Chilcutt were most defiantly <em>preliminary tests</em>, and it is either willfully ignorant or dishonest of Chilcutt to fail to acknowledge this. </p>
<p>Other researchers like Brenden Bannon and <a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/the-solid-science-of-sam-rich/">Sam Rich</a> never had to go through the kind of preliminary testing that I did, and created test casts that contain textures that are virtually identical to the textures seen on CA-19.</p>
<p>Chilcutt seems to suggest that desiccation ridges don’t exhibit deltas. Chilcutt claims to “have never seen artifacts change directions on curved surfaces and change directions 45 degrees.” Really? I take it he has never looked at my website or refuses to acknowledge that he has:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/02/03/a-response-to-chilcutt%e2%80%99s-monstertalk-interview/delta-ridge-flows-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-543"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Delta-Ridge-Flows1-300x200.jpg" alt="" title="Delta Ridge Flows" width="300" height="200" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-543" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/02/03/a-response-to-chilcutt%e2%80%99s-monstertalk-interview/delta-flow-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-544"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Delta-Flow2-300x200.jpg" alt="" title="Delta Flow" width="300" height="200" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-544" /></a></p>
<p>Perhaps the most deeply unusual aspect of his whole interview his how he claims to have spent 3 days in Meldrum’s lab and “took two castings back to his (Chilcutt’s) lab” and yet failed to notice the writing on the back of the cast in question, CA-19:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/02/03/a-response-to-chilcutt%e2%80%99s-monstertalk-interview/ca-19/" rel="attachment wp-att-541"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/CA-19-300x200.jpg" alt="" title="CA-19" width="300" height="200" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-541" /></a></p>
<p>Chilcutt claims during the MonsterTalk Interview that “this is the first time I’ve heard that designation.”</p>
<p>How is this even possible? The most generous explanation that I can think of is that Meldrum gave Chilcutt a copy of CA-19 to examine, and did not loan out the original. But if Chilcutt spent 3 days in Meldrum’s lab, how could he have missed what Meldrum claims is the original cast?</p>
<p>Conveniently left out of this interview is the fact that Chilcutt by his own admission was unfamiliar with desiccation ridges until I came forth with my findings. Once you know what desiccation ridges look like on a Bigfoot-sized cast, there is really no going back; certain features are just unmistakable. </p>
<p>If you came upon a tree stump that had lots of little cuts on it beside a body of water, it might seem very mysterious until you learn what beavers do to trees. At that point, it becomes obvious, and you can’t go back to seeing such a stump in any other way.</p>
<p><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2010/02/03/a-response-to-chilcutt%e2%80%99s-monstertalk-interview/beavered-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-583"><img src="http://orgoneresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Beavered1-350x376.jpg" alt="" title="Beavered!" width="350" height="376" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-583" /></a></p>
<p>The textures on CA-19 and CA-20 are desiccation ridges, as obvious as a beavered tree stump. Chilcutt’s decision to ignore the overwhelming evidence contrary to his interpretation does not even rise to the level of a coherent rebuttal, and frankly that’s kind of sad.</p>
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		<title>Bigfoot Compendium</title>
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Wallace&#8217;s Wooden Feet
Fake Feet and  		Monolithic Margins
Pressure Releases and  		Scalloped Margins
Ridges and  			Furrows
Arched Furrows
Fixatives
Flat Ridge  			Peaks
Ridge  			Flow Pattern
Testing Silica
The Holy  			Grail; The Original Cast
More  			CA-19 photos
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Conclusion
Sex, Lies, and Pseudoscience
What&#8217;s All This About Volcanic Ash?
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<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/wallaces-wooden-feet/">Wallace&#8217;s Wooden Feet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/fake-feet-and-monolithic-margins-2/">Fake Feet and  		Monolithic Margins</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/pressure-releases-and-scalloped-margins-2/">Pressure Releases and  		Scalloped Margins</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/ridges-and-furrows-2/">Ridges and  			Furrows</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/arched-furrows/">Arched Furrows</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/fixatives/">Fixatives</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/flat-ridge-peaks/">Flat Ridge  			Peaks</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/ridge-flow-pattern/">Ridge  			Flow Pattern</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/testing-silica/">Testing Silica</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/the-holy-grail-the-original-cast/">The Holy  			Grail; The Original Cast</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/more-ca-19-photos/">More  			CA-19 photos</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/ca-6/">CA-6</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/ca-20/">CA-20</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/conclusion/">Conclusion</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/sex-lies-and-pseudoscience/">Sex, Lies, and Pseudoscience</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/whats-all-this-about-volcanic-ash/">What&#8217;s All This About Volcanic Ash?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/the-solid-science-of-sam-rich/">The Solid Science of Sam  			Rich</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/the-testimony-of-perry-tuttle-of-us-gypsum/">The Testimony of Perry  			Tuttle of US Gypsum</a></li>
<li><a href="http://orgoneresearch.com/2009/10/19/an-experimentally-produced-desiccation-ridge-that-mimics-an-arch/">An Experimentally  			Produced Desiccation Ridge That Mimics an Arch</a></li>
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		<title>Is Patty 5&#8217;7&#8243;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>The following montage originally  appeared on the JREF  Forum:</p>
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<p align="left">The original image without the  stacked feet between the front and side views of &#8220;Patty&#8221; appears in Chris  Murphy&#8217;s book Meet  the Sasquatch. The digital representation of &#8220;Patty&#8221; was created by Doug  Hajicek [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>The following montage originally  appeared on the <a href="http://www.randi.org/forumlive/forumindex.php" class="broken_link">JREF  Forum</a>:</em></p>
<p align="left"><em><img src="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/pat6fta%5B1%5D.gif" border="0" alt="" width="375" height="488" /></em></p>
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<p align="left"><em>The original image without the  stacked feet between the front and side views of &#8220;Patty&#8221; appears in Chris  Murphy&#8217;s book </em><em><a href="http://www.hancockhouse.com/products/meesas.htm">Meet  the Sasquatch</a></em>. The digital representation of &#8220;Patty&#8221; was created by Doug  Hajicek and Reuben Steindorf. Unfortunately, analysis of the proportions of the  digital model yields a strange outcome. This was the reason that the feet are  included in the JREF montage. As measured by the claimed length of the film  subject&#8217;s feet, the resulting height is anomalously short.</p>
<p><em>Being skeptical I decided to double check the math. I  measured the actual image from page 94 of Chris Murphy&#8217;s </em><em>Meet the Sasquatch</em>.  For the length of the foot I measure 41mm:</p>
<p align="left"><em><img src="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/IMG_2589%5B1%5D.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="600" height="400" /></em></p>
<p align="left"><em>For the height I measure 188mm:</em></p>
<p align="left"><em><img src="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/IMG_2586%5B1%5D.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="600" height="400" /></em></p>
<p align="left"><em>Dividing 188 by 41 I get 4.585.  Multiplying 4.585 by 14.5 inches ( the length of what is asserted to be Patty&#8217;s  foot) gives me 66.48 or 66.5 inches. 66.5 inches is 5 foot six and one half  inches or 5&#8217;7&#8243;.</em></p>
<p><em></em><em>The proportions of Steindorf&#8217;s  digital model of &#8220;Patty&#8221;, the subject of the Patterson-Gimlin film, suggest a  height of about 5&#8217;7&#8243;!</em></p>
<p><em>Now you might think this is a victory for the dreaded  &#8220;scoftics&#8221;, that what is claimed to be an element of &#8220;Bigfoot Science&#8221; is deeply  flawed, almost bordering on &#8220;pseudoscience&#8221;. But no, I feel that this is an  advocate opportunity, because it can be used to show how &#8220;inhuman&#8221; Patty really  is. Earlier in Murphy&#8217;s book, we are introduced to Jeff Glickman who came to the  scientific conclusion that &#8220;Patty&#8221; weighs 1,957 pounds (page 81). This is good  news for Sasquatch advocates. If Patty is 5&#8217;7&#8243; and weighs 1,957 pounds then her  density surely approaches that of depleted uranium, a most &#8220;inhuman&#8221;  characteristic if there ever was one.</em></p>
<p><em>I propose that this newly discovered characteristic, </em><em> inhuman density</em>, be added other claims about the film subject, such as the <a href="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/does_the_pattersongimlin_film_s.htm" class="broken_link">&#8220;inhuman gait&#8221;</a>&#8230;</p>
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<p>In the spring of 2005 I was helping out  the Seattle Museum of the Mysteries by manning a table they had set up at the  annual science fiction convention. The table had various books for sale,  including some published by Hancock House. I had also set out [...]]]></description>
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<p>In the spring of 2005 I was helping out  the Seattle Museum of the Mysteries by manning a table they had set up at the  annual science fiction convention. The table had various books for sale,  including some published by Hancock House. I had also set out several early  plaster test casts that displayed desiccation ridges. I got into an interesting  conversation with a man who did plaster casting of figurines. As I spoke to him,  a woman came up and began to look through Chris Murphy&#8217;s re-issue of Roger  Patterson&#8217;s book, now re-titled <em>The Bigfoot Film Controversy</em>.</p>
<p>When I ended my conversation with this man, this woman  suddenly spoke up. Mind you, she initiated the conversation, and I had no idea  who this woman was. She opened the book to page 88, and pointed out this  photograph to me:</p>
<p align="left"><img src="http://www.orgoneresearch.com/post-1483-1199775986_thumb.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="396" height="400" /></p>
<p align="left">For those who have not read the book,  the photo on page 88 is of Roger Patterson, allegedly taken in Ape Canyon, which  is on the south side of Mt. St. Helens in Washington. This was the site of a  classic Bigfoot encounter in 1924.</p>
<p>Out of nowhere she tells me that the picture is a fake,  and that she was there when the picture was taken! I was so taken aback that I  asked her to write down what she had told me. Note that she puts Ape Canyon in  California, probably due to our subsequent conversation about Patterson&#8217;s Bluff  Creek California film.</p>
<p>Her note reads (with personal information redacted)</p>
<p>&#8220;Bobbie H. 509-***-**** #########@aol.com</p>
<p>p. 88 Bigfoot Film Controversy</p>
<p>I was there when picture was taken &#8212; South Fork of  Ahtanum 20 miles west of Yakima. My mom threw gas on fire to make it flare up.  NOT taken in California.</p>
<p>Niece of Jerry Merritt&#8221;</p>
<p>The Niece of Jerry Merrit! If true, it suggests  Patterson engaged in Bigfoot related fraud before his Bluff Creek film.</p>
<p>I had always assumed that Bob Gimlin took the photo. At  the Bellingham conference in late May 2005 I asked Bob Gimlin about going to Ape  Canyon with Patterson. Surprisingly, Gimlin told me that he was <em>not</em> in  Ape Canyon with Patterson! He told me he went to Spirit Lake with Patterson, but  Spirit Lake was on the NORTH side of the mountain, and quite a distance from Ape  Canyon.</p>
<p>So who took the picture???</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve always been more interested in  physical evidence than anecdotal evidence. It&#8217;s possible that this gal is  mistaken or is being deceitful. But part of the reason that I bring this little  tidbit forward is to counter the claim that Greg Long <em>set out</em> to find  witnesses that had a negative opinion of Roger Patterson. This information was  VOLUNTEERED to me, and I asked no &#8220;leading questions&#8221; at all. This gal&#8217;s  testimony is totally consistent with what the other witnesses in Long&#8217;s book  relate about Patterson, and further it goes beyond what Patterson apologists  claim about Patterson&#8217;s deceit, that it was not Bigfoot related.</p>
<p>I understand Dave Murphy (no relation to Chris Murphy)  has been working on a pro-Patterson book. I advised Murphy of this woman&#8217;s  story. We will have to wait and see if Murphy follows up on it.</p>
<p><em>UPDATE: July 14, 2010. It has been pointed out to me that the testimony of Bobbie H.&#8217;s mother, Florence Showman (née Merritt) is also recorded in Long&#8217;s book on pages 131 and 132.</p>
<p>From page 132: &#8220;I also remember taking pictures of Roger sitting around a campfire at Tampico. He was going to use them in his book or whatever. I took pictures of him in his western outfit sitting on his horse.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know my Yakima geography, but I assume That Florence and Bobbie are referring to the same place and the same event.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s been five years, and still no pro-Patterson book from Dave Murphy, as far as I know. </em></p>
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